I do not deny that humanity's powerful tendencies towards in-group loyalties and out-group histories would exist even in the absence of religion. Fans of rival football teams are an example of the phenomenon whit small. Even football supporters sometimes divide a long religious lines, as in the case of Glasgow Rangers and Glasgow Celtic. Languages (as in Belgium), races and tribes (especially in Africa) can be important divisive tokens. But religion amplifies and exacerbates the damage in at least three ways:

-Labeling of children. Children are described as 'Catholic Children' or 'Protestant Children' etc. from an early age, and certainly far too early for them to have made up their minds on what they think about religion.

-Segregated schools. Children are educated, again off in from a very early age, with members of a religious in group and separately from children his family is here to other religions. It is not an exaggeration to say that the troubles in Northern Ireland would disappear in a generation of segregated schooling were abolished.

-Taboos against 'marrying out'. This perpetuates hereditary fueds and vendettas by preventing the mingling of feuding groups. Intermarriage, if it were permitted, would naturally tend to mollify enmities.

The Bible is a blueprint of in-group morality, complete with instructions for genocide, enslavement of out-groups, and world domination. But the Bible is not evil by virtue of its objectives or even it's glorification of murder, cruelty, and rape. Many ancient works do that - The Iliad, the Icelandic Sagas, the tales of ancient Syrians and the inscriptions of the ancient Mayans, for example. But no one is selling the Iliad as a foundation of morality. Therein lies the problem. The Bible is sold, and bought, as a guide to how people should live their lives. And it is, by far, the world's all-time best seller.

Novel Prize winning physicist Steven Weinberg said, "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, it takes religion."

Blaise Pascal said, "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."

"Historic Mecca, the cradle of Islam, is being buried in an unprecedented onslaught by religious zealots. Almost all of the rich and multi layered history of the holy city is gone... Now the actual birthday place of the Prophet Muhammad is facing the bulldozers, with the connivance of Saudi religious authorities who's hardline interpretation of Islam is compelling them to wipe out their own heritage... The motive behind the destruction is the Wahhabist' fanatical fear that places of historical and religious interest could give rise to idolatry or polytheism, the worship of multiple and potentially equal gods. The practice of idolatry in Saudi Arabia remains, in principle, punishable by beheading.

I do not believe there is an atheist in the world who would bulldoze Mecca - or Chartres, York Minster or Notre Dame, the Shwe Dagon, or, of course, the Buddhas of Bamiyan.

Why not all Allah's omnipotent power? Or Lord Brahmas? Or even Yahwehs?

Why, I can't help wondering, is God thought to need such ferocious defense? One might have supposed to him amply capable of looking after himself.


Freedom From Religion Foundation, FFRF, which campaigns peacefully against the undermining of the Constitutional separation of church and state.

"God and Country make an unbeatable team; they break all records for oppression and blood shed."

~Luis Bunuel

Gregory S. Paul, in the Journal of Religion and Society (2005), systematically compared 17 economically developed nations, and reach the devastating conclusion that ' higher rates of belief in and worship of a creator correlate with higher rates of homicide, juvenile and early mortality, STD infection rates, teen pregnancy and abortion in the prosperous democracies'.

Many of our human ailments, from lower back pain to hernias, prolapsed uteruses and our susceptibility to sinus infections, result directly from the fact that we now walk upright with a body that was shaped over hundreds of millions of years to walk on all fours.

"Why is God considered an explanation for anything? It's not- it's failure to explain, a shrug of the shoulders, an 'I dunno' dressed up in spirituality and ritual. If someone credits something to God, generally what it means is that they haven't a clue, so they're attributing it to an unreachable, unknowable sky-fairy. Ask for an explanation of where that bloke came from, and odds were you'll get a vague, psuedo-philosophical reply about having always existed, or being outside nature. Which, of course, explains nothing."

" If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance 'God'".

~Jerry Coyne

The human appendix:

In plant-eating vertebrates, the appendix is much larger and its main function is to help digest a largely herbivorous diet. The human appendix is a small pouch attached to the large intestine where it joins the small intestine and does not directly assist digestion. Biologists believe it is a vestigial organ left behind from a plant-eating ancestor. Interestingly, it has been noted by paleontologist Alfred Sherwood Romer in his text The Vertebrate Body (1949) that the major importance of the appendix "would appear to be financial support of the surgical profession", referring to, of course, the large number of appendectomies performed annually. In 2000, in fact, there were nearly 300,000 appendectomies performed in the United States, and 371 deaths from appendicitis. Any secondary function that the appendix might perform certainly is not missed in those who had it removed before it might have ruptured.

Male breast tissue and nipple:

The subject of male nipples is a sensitive, and maybe confusing, topic to many. Those who wish to invalidate evolutionary theory might pose the question, "Was man descended from woman?" The answer, of course, is no. Both men and women have nipples because in early stages of fetal development, an unborn child is effectively sexless. Nipples are present in both males and females; it is only in a later stage of fetal development that testosterone causes sex differentiation in a fetus. All mammals, male and female, have mammary glands. Male nipples are vestigial; they may perform a small role in sexual stimulation and a small number of men have been able to lactate. However, they are not fully functional and, because cancer can grow in male or female breast tissue, the tissue can be dangerous.

Wisdom Teeth:

With all of the pain, time, and money that are put into dealing with wisdom teeth, humans have become just a little more than tired of these remnants from their large jawed ancestors. But regardless of how much they are despised, the wisdom teeth remain, and force their way into mouths regardless of the pain inflicted. There are two possible reasons why the wisdom teeth have become vestigial. The first is that the human jaw has become smaller than its ancestors -and the wisdom teeth are trying to grow into a jaw that is much too small. The second reason may have to do with dental hygiene. A few thousand years ago, it might be common for an 18 year old man to have lost several, probably most, of his teeth, and the incoming wisdom teeth would prove useful. Now that humans brush their teeth twice a day, it's possible to keep one's teeth for a lifetime. The drawback is that the wisdom teeth still want to come in, and when they do, they usually need to be extracted to prevent any serious pain.

The coccyx or Human Tailbone:

These fused vertebrae are the only vestiges that are left of the tail that other mammals still use for balance, communication, and in some primates, as a prehensile limb. As our ancestors were learning to walk upright, their tail became useless, and it slowly disappeared. It has been suggested that the coccyx helps to anchor minor muscles and may support pelvic organs. However, there have been many well documented medical cases where the tailbone has been surgically removed with little or no adverse effects. There have been documented cases of infants born with tails, an extended version of the tailbone that is composed of extra vertebrae. There are no adverse health effects of such a tail, unless perhaps the child was born in the Dark Ages. In that case, the child and the mother, now considered witches, would've been killed instantly.

Erector Pili and Body Hair:

The erector pili are smooth muscle fibers that give humans "goose bumps". If the erector pili are activated, the hairs that come out of the nearby follicles stand up and give an animal a larger appearance that might scare off potential enemies and a coat that is thicker and warmer. Humans, though, don't have thick furs like their ancestors did, and our strategy for several thousand years has been to take the fur off other warm looking animals to stay warm. It's ironic actually that an animal, sensing danger is near, would puff up its coat to look scarier, but the human hunter would see the puffier coat as a warm prize, leaving the thinner haired weaker looking animals alone. Of course, some body hair is helpful to humans; eye brows can keep sweat out of the eyes and facial hair might influence a woman's choice of sexual partner. All the rest of that hair, though, is essentially useless.

"But we are made in his image!"

And yet God gave you a bunch of spare parts, some of which will kill you or cause severe pain and discomfort.

Yes, we were 'designed' broken. Brilliance.

David Hume : " No testimony is sufficient to establish a miracle, unless the testimony be of such a kind, that it's also it would be more miraculous than the fact which is endeavors to establish."

Jim Watson : " Well I don't think we're for anything. We're just product of evolution. You can say, "Gee, your life must be pretty bleak if you don't think there's a purpose." but I'm anticipating having a good lunch."

Another argument I detest it's the Ultimate Boeing 747, the premise that the likelihood of life originating on earth without God is no greater than the chance that a hurricane, sweeping 3 scrap yard, would have the luck to assemble a Boeing 747. others have borrow the metaphor to refer to the leader evolution of complex living bodies, where it has spurious plausibility. the odds against assembling a fully functioning horse, bill or ostrich by randomly shopping its parts are up there in 747 territory. This, in a nutshell, is the creationist' favorite argument- an argument that could be made only by somebody who doesn't understand the first thing about natural selection: somebody who thinks natural selection is a theory of chance whereas- in the relevant sense of chance- it is the opposite.

however statistically improbable the entity you seek to explain by invoking a designer, the designer himself has got to be at least as improbable. God is the ultimate Boeing 747.

I personally do test the declaration of," I admit that there's no evidence of God. There's a reason why it's called faith." this last sentence uttered with almost truculent conviction, and no hint of apology or defensiveness. I'm sorry, but in today's day and age of the free exchange of information and ideas, remaining ignorant is a choice. how pretentious, how weak, and unbearably pathetic.

why, in any case, do we so readily accept the idea that the 1 thing you must do you if you want to please God is believing him? what's so special about believing? isn't it just as likely that God will reward kindness, or generosity, or humility? Or sincerity? What if God is a scientist who regards honest seeking after truth as the supreme virtue? Indeed, with the designer the universe have to be a scientist? Bertrand Russell I was asked what he would say he died and found himself confronted by God, demanding to know why Russell have not believe in Him. ' not enough evidence, god, not enough evidence.' was Russell's reply. Might be God respect Russell for is courageous skepticism far more than he will respect Pascal's cowardly hedge-betting?

Pascal's Wager holds that however long the odds against God's existence might be, there is an even larger asymmetry the penalty for guessing wrong. You better believe in God, because you're right you stand to gain eternal bliss and if you're wrong it won't make any difference anyway. On the other hand, if you don't believe in God you turn out to be wrong you get a turtle damnation, where as if you're right it makes the difference. On the face of it, the decision is no brainer. however, there is something distinctly on about the argument. believing is not something you can decide to do as a matter of policy. Pascal's wager could only ever be an argument for feeding believe in God. And the guy that you claim to believe in had better not be the on Mission kind or heat see through the deception.

"An amusing, if rather pathetic, case study, in miracles is the Great Prayer Experiment: does praying for patients help them recover? Prayers are commonly offered for sick people, both privately and in formal places of worship. Darwin's cousin, Francis Galton was the first to analyse scientifically whether praying for people is efficacious. He noted that every Sunday, in churches throughout Britain, entire congregations prayed publicly for the health of the royal family. Shouldn't they, therefore, be unusually fit, compared with the rest of us, who are prayed for only by our nearest and dearest? Galton looked into it, and found no statistical differentiation. His intention may, in any case, have been satirical, as also when he prayed over randomized plots of land to see if the plants would grow any faster (they didn't).

More recently, the physicist Russell Stannard (one of three well-known religious scientists...) has thrown his weight behind an initiative, funded by - of course - the Templeton Foundation, to test experimentally the proposition that praying for sick patients improves their health.

Such experiments, if done properly, have to be double blind, and this standard was strictly observed. The patients were assigned, strictly at random, to an experimental group (received prayers), or a control (received no prayers). Neither the patients, nor their doctors or caregivers, nor the experimenters were allowed to know which patients were being prayed for and which patients were the controls. Those who did the experimental praying had to know the names of the individuals for whom they were praying - otherwise, in what sense would be praying for them rather than for somebody else? But care was taken to tell them only the first name and initial letter of the surname. Apparently, that would be enough to enable God to pinpoint the right hospital bed.

...

Valiantly shouldering aside all mockery, the team of researchers soldiered on, spending $2.4 million in Templeton money under the leadership of Dr. Herbert Benson, a cardiologist at the Mind/Body Medical Institute near Boston. Dr. Benson was earlier quoted in a Templeton press release as 'believing that evidence for the efficacy of intercessory prayer in medicinal settings is mounting'. Reassuringly, then, the research was in good hands, unlikely to be spoiled by sceptical vibrations. Dr. Benson and his team monitored 1,802 patients at six hospitals, all of whom received coronary bypass surgery. The patients were divided into three groups. Group 1 received prayers and didn't know it. Group 2 (the control group) received no prayers and didn't know it. Group 3 received prayers and did know it. The comparison between Groups 1 and 2 tests for the efficacy of intercessory prayer. Group 3 tests for possible psychosomatic effects of knowing that one is being prayed for.

Prayers were delivered by the congregations of three churches, one in Minnesota, one in Massachusetts, and one in Missouri, all distant from the three hospitals. The praying individuals, as explained, were given only the first name and initial letter of the surname of each patient for whom they were to pray. It is good experimental practice to standardize as far as possible, and they were all, accordingly, told to include in their prayers the phrase, 'for a successful surgery with a quick, healthy recovery and no complications.'

The results, reported in the American Heart Journal of April 2006, were clear cut. There was no difference between those patients who were prayed for and those who were not. What a surprise. There was a difference between those who KNEW they had been prayed for and those who did not know one way or another; but it went in the wrong direction. Those who knew they had been the beneficiaries of prayer suffered significantly more complications than those who did not. Was God doing some smiting, to show his disapproval of the whole barmy enterprise? It seems more probable that those patients who knew they were being prayed for suffered additional stress in consequence: 'Performance anxiety', as the experimenters put it."

~Excerpt from Richard Dawkin's book The God Delusion

"Some people have views of God that are so broad and flexible that it is inevitable that they will find God wherever they look for him. One hears it said that ' God is the ultimate', or ' God is our better naturenature' or ' God is the universe.' Of course, like any other word, the word 'god' can be given any meaning we like. If you want to say that 'god is energy', then you can find God in a lump of coal."

- Nobel-prize winning physicist Steven Weinberg

"When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion."
-Robert M. Pirsig

Vegetarians are fucking hypocrites. If you care THAT strongly for the lives of all animals, then you should care about the lives of the plants, fungi, and microscopic animals you kill by the thousands every day. Give and take is the LAW of life on this planet, and it is impossible for you to live without killing something. a few hundred bacteria and viruses just died in your GI tract and there's nothing you can do about it.

They're also as stupid as creationists. You have a doctrine that you follow that somehow our design is wrong and you go against the natural order. Open your mouth in a mirror. See those canines, bicuspids and incisors? They are for TEARING FLESH. Now prick your finger and run your blood through a DNA spectral analyzer. See all those blueprints for protein-unlocking amino acids? They are keys your body uses for turning meat, fat, oil, and flesh into ATP and lipids. Your organs are made of meat and need meat to maintain themselves. Your joints are lubricated with animal fats. Your muscles rebuild themselves and fortify your strength with complex protein strands. The list goes on and on.

Homo Sapiens are omnivores. We need fruits, vegetables, AND animal meats to live the way we were meant to by nature. It is also a scientific fact that our transition into becoming meat eaters is how we became as smart as we are--it allowed our brains to condense and hold more surface area with less volume. Without having eaten meat we wouldn't have picked up enough gray matter to make tools, and without coats, claws or refined senses, we'd be completely extinct.
and above all, you're LOUD.
Shut the fuck up about your life choices already. Do what you want, but don't think you have any right to shove your CousCous down other peoples' throats. In certain regards you idiots are worse than PeTA and religious psychos. Do what you will, but if you try to take steak off my plate, know that YOU are the next nearest thing made of meat, and I INTEND to get my meat ration.

Someone posted this on Facebook and my response was not well-received.

" Current studies show that over thirty percent of returning soldiers have PTSD. Because of this, sad though that may be, the majority of veterans who cannot find employment (roughly 84% of the unemployed have PTSD according to the 2011 national survey) are those with PTSD because they cannot afford treatment, the treatment does not work or works with a limited effect, or they refuse treatment altogether. PTSD-stricken soldiers are prone to moderate to severe depression, anxiety, societal disassociation, peritraumatic disassociation, problems with anger, concentration, or hypervigilance, irritability, angry outbursts, and increased startle response.

So. This moron is saying we should take these men, the MAJORITY of which have anxiety, anger issues, have a heightened sensitivity and reaction to loud noises and similar phenomena, and, for many of them, don't have a strong will to live anymore, arm them, and put them in schools near rowdy, boisterous children?

Yeah, whoever wrote this is writing from their patriotism- and emotion-blinded heart and not with their brain. It's cute, hey, woo, give the vets jobs, go America, but it's fucking stupid. My brother is a vet, and he would gladly punch a loud kid in the face and, from what he's said, most of the guys on his old crew were the same way.

Also, interesting fact, many soldiers who go into the military as Christians leave as atheists. So, yeah, "Keep God in America" isn't a viewpoint shared by the soldiers you support.

Just sayin'."


I wonder why they got mad...

"Satan is among us, tonight, friends. Can you see the fire? Can you see the Brimstone? Get down on your knees! Get down on your knees and crawl like the filthy beasts you have become. Back into the pit! Back into the caves! Put the bible to your head, and pull the trigger! The Lord requests and so he shall receive! Glory! Glory!"